tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post187629043490706219..comments2024-02-11T08:56:42.753+00:00Comments on It's Not A Zero Sum Game: Tell the DoH not to change abortion rules without a voteMarina Shttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-27359710080865557852011-07-15T12:26:11.778+01:002011-07-15T12:26:11.778+01:00Thanks - I've seen a few responses from the Do...Thanks - I've seen a few responses from the DoH now (and had one myself - will blog it shortly), but zip, nada, zilch from Milton.<br /><br />In general the tone of the responses is encouraging. The thing that worries me though is this:<br /><br />" Independent counselling will focus on enabling a woman to make a decision that would benefit her overall health and wellbeing."<br /><br />That dangerously conflates counselling and advice. Counsellors should categorically NOT be helping women reach any decisions; counselling is for when a woman has reached a decision, or is struggling to reach a decision, and is in need of emotional support. The idea that counsellors will be "helping" women to decide whether to proceed with a termination or not is a really disquieting blurring of responsibilities. If you have the energy, it's be great to go back to the DoH and make this point. I'm planning to, anyway.<br /><br />Thanks again, Mx.Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-27891711508771725552011-07-15T11:19:28.472+01:002011-07-15T11:19:28.472+01:00Hi Marina - I said up at the top of the thread tha...Hi Marina - I said up at the top of the thread that I'd share any response I got back from the DoH and it follows below. As well as submitting this I also sent an adapted copy of your excellent letter to Anne Milton (on the grounds that individualising it a bit often makes these things more effective) - however, nothing but a deafening silence there.<br /><br />- - - - -<br /><br />The Department of Health is aware of Frank Field's and Nadine Dorries' concerns and Anne Milton recently met with them to discuss this issue.<br /><br />The Department is drawing up proposals to enable all women who are seeking an abortion to be offered access to independent counselling. The Department would want the counselling to be provided by appropriately qualified individuals. Independent counselling will focus on enabling a woman to make a decision that would benefit her overall health and wellbeing.<br /><br />Independent counselling will be for those women who choose to have it and will not be mandatory. Full proposals are still being worked up within the Department of Health and it is therefore unable to provide detailed answers while this process takes place.AstroGirlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-86435856479276682302011-07-04T10:59:10.912+01:002011-07-04T10:59:10.912+01:00Thanks Elizabeth, yours was the last name to be ad...Thanks Elizabeth, yours was the last name to be added. :)Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-38338632341183626402011-07-04T02:36:24.995+01:002011-07-04T02:36:24.995+01:00Great letter - sign me up and will spread the word...Great letter - sign me up and will spread the word. Is there a cutoff date?Elizabeth HeadElizabeth Headhttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001596881869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-15104688122360457072011-07-02T15:21:27.634+01:002011-07-02T15:21:27.634+01:00Thanks Can, I have.Thanks Can, I have.Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-67039857242183580692011-07-02T10:13:30.803+01:002011-07-02T10:13:30.803+01:00Please sign me up too - Can Sönmez, Bristol.Please sign me up too - Can Sönmez, Bristol.slideyfoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05374174757753962274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-18980555685447049112011-07-01T18:38:20.882+01:002011-07-01T18:38:20.882+01:00Thank you Katie :)Thank you Katie :)Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-77735955774208989782011-07-01T16:44:20.185+01:002011-07-01T16:44:20.185+01:00I agree 'we' is good! But fair play for wr...I agree 'we' is good! But fair play for writing the letter, it is succinctly yet eloquently written. Add me<br /><br />Katie Richards, BristolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-11863752562706161472011-07-01T11:31:47.889+01:002011-07-01T11:31:47.889+01:00Thanks Alessandra. :) It occurrs to me that with s...Thanks Alessandra. :) It occurrs to me that with so many people supporting this, I should really change the "I" in the letter to "we"!Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-16537516725727613062011-07-01T11:20:09.536+01:002011-07-01T11:20:09.536+01:00Please sign my name under this brilliantly written...Please sign my name under this brilliantly written letter, thank you. Am looking forward to her response.<br /><br />Alessandra Berti, BristolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-17425787904983925252011-06-30T23:33:33.262+01:002011-06-30T23:33:33.262+01:00Done - thanks Adrian. Also, hello! *waves*Done - thanks Adrian. Also, hello! *waves*Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-55610969453899959722011-06-30T23:28:43.931+01:002011-06-30T23:28:43.931+01:00Please sign my name too - Adrian Ogden, Reading.Please sign my name too - Adrian Ogden, Reading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-84862504090368734302011-06-30T23:17:14.531+01:002011-06-30T23:17:14.531+01:00Thank you Miriam - I hope to have 50 names by tomo...Thank you Miriam - I hope to have 50 names by tomorrow, and send it out by the late post. Got 36 including yourself, so not doing at all badly! :)Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-89893077680172792192011-06-30T23:07:13.939+01:002011-06-30T23:07:13.939+01:00Please sign me up if you haven't already sent ...Please sign me up if you haven't already sent this - Miriam Miller, London.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-1049162201778710592011-06-30T22:00:03.300+01:002011-06-30T22:00:03.300+01:00Lila: thank you, I have.
Claire: thank you too! W...Lila: thank you, I have.<br /><br />Claire: thank you too! Would you mind sharing your town/city with me, just to add credibility to the letter?<br /><br />Re: FB group, I've publicized this on a few that I'm a member of, but setting one up is more time and trouble than I can spare right now. However if you want to set one up, feel free to use the title of this post as a name, I license it willingly. :) Or just, you know, post it on your FB and send all your friends over.Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-91427985411856618852011-06-30T21:15:36.472+01:002011-06-30T21:15:36.472+01:00I'll sign it too, thanks for writing. It would...I'll sign it too, thanks for writing. It would be good to promote this on facebook or a fb group.<br /><br />Claire LockieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-56794012715890273372011-06-30T20:04:24.958+01:002011-06-30T20:04:24.958+01:00Sign me up plz.Sign me up plz.Lila O'Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-62283325726178887672011-06-30T18:24:25.816+01:002011-06-30T18:24:25.816+01:00Done, thanks Livi.Done, thanks Livi.Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-53491822739409628822011-06-30T17:39:23.480+01:002011-06-30T17:39:23.480+01:00Please add me to the list
Olivia Short / Skelmers...Please add me to the list<br /><br />Olivia Short / Skelmersdale, LancsLivishorthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13615195516726039180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-87269017215254352652011-06-30T17:34:24.565+01:002011-06-30T17:34:24.565+01:00But of course! I'm only putting people's c...But of course! I'm only putting people's city/town on, not full address. Thanks, Elena. :)Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-91138905107821735352011-06-30T17:14:06.266+01:002011-06-30T17:14:06.266+01:00I'd love to sign this, if you haven't sent...I'd love to sign this, if you haven't sent it off yet? I can send my address too, if that's useful?<br /><br />Elena Findley-de RegtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-53264732695295164782011-06-30T14:13:22.345+01:002011-06-30T14:13:22.345+01:00Thank you my dear! :)Thank you my dear! :)Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-19970715430222604292011-06-30T14:07:31.639+01:002011-06-30T14:07:31.639+01:00Sign me up! xxSign me up! xxRose Childnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-44379406080425653552011-06-30T10:58:42.760+01:002011-06-30T10:58:42.760+01:00LOL, I think I might just leave him off for the mo...LOL, I think I might just leave him off for the moment. But thank you.Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6510624476585230434.post-36454832252965099572011-06-29T23:08:12.271+01:002011-06-29T23:08:12.271+01:00I'll sign it. You can also sign it under the n...I'll sign it. You can also sign it under the name of my alter-ego "Alex Salmond, MSP"Bernard O'Learyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717539658760582604noreply@blogger.com